Follow Thursday's European games livepublished at 16:52 BST 15 October
16:52 BST 15 October
There are 18 games in both the Europa League and the Conference League on Thursday - with Bournemouth, Crystal Palace and Sunderland involved in the former, and Brighton the latter - and BBC Sport will bring you every moment.
Sage on injuries, away support and returning to Lyonpublished at 21:10 BST 14 October
21:10 BST 14 October
Crystal Palace boss Pierre Sage has been speaking to the media before Thursday's Europa League game against Lyon at Groupama Stadium (kick-off 17:45 BST).
Here are the key lines from his news conference:
Jean-Philippe Mateta, Dean Henderson, Takehiro Tomiyasu and Ben Chilwell will not be involved in Thursday's match.
On the travelling support: "I know there will be 3,000 and we are really happy and proud that they can share this moment. The result is something but they don't choose to come for the result, they come to be with us and that is really good."
On returning to Lyon: "I still feel part of Lyon somehow. I still have a house here so it's a special moment."
Sage says his former side have "a lot of density in midfield," and they "love to attack," adding: "Lyon have made a few changes from last season. They are a really strong side. There were a few changes in the summer that were logical in terms of how they want to build this team."
When asked if the preparation for the match changes against a familiar club: "I cannot claim to know everything about the club and the Palace players don't' know everything about the club. So we need to educate them, tell them how to play against a certain position. There will be emotion in the air – but the important thing is it's a football game and we need a good performance."
Momentous win but defence frailties persistpublished at 12:55 BST 14 October
12:55 BST 14 October
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Fan and content creator Ollie Thomas reviewed Crystal Palace's performance against Nottingham Forest before previewing their Thursday evening tie against Ligue One opponent's Lyon (17:45 BST).
"Four games that could define our season, and we won, which is more than what I thought we would do!
"Yes, we obviously got quite lucky, but our games are taking a weird form at the moment.
"We conceded a hatful of chances, and we looked really weak defensively, but we then scored three goals and won. And I can live with that!
"There is a big three games left. Lyon on Thursday night, that is the kind of game when you look at where we have come from... Lyon away. That was a bona fide Champions League team when I was growing up!
"I think the Nottingham Forest game is a big way to start those four games. First of all, it gives us breathing room going into the Brighton game, which is going to be a tough game.
"It is nice to go into that game not needing a result because, ultimately, on the balance of the Premier League right now, we are underdogs for that game.
"Second of all, it gives the players confidence winning that game. Four points from Leeds away and Forest at home is really good. Third of all it is good for Pierre Sage and the PR of the team. Beating Oliver Glasner does win fans over.
"That is our greatest ever manager, and we have just beaten him 3-1. The football we're playing is really exciting, but the backline is still a massive issue.
"I don't really know what the solution is. What we do with this defence is still a bit of a mystery to me.
"For me, Jaydee Canvot has to play as the left centre-back and I think he is our best centre-back, and he is one of our most valuable assets."
How much did Man City's rule breaking cost your team?published at 12:14 BST 13 October
12:14 BST 13 October
Dale Johnson Football issues correspondent
Imagine a world where Manchester City had not used "sham contracts" to build a team capable of winning three Premier League titles, one FA Cup and three EFL Cups.
If City were the winners, then there had to be losers - and not just those teams who finished runners-up or lost cup finals.
The potential impact runs much deeper and includes missed Champions League qualification, relegation and Premier League prize money.
Thirty-five other teams played in the English top flight between 2009 and 2018.
And every one could in some way claim to have been left financially out of pocket.
Glasner reflects on Selhurst receptionpublished at 19:04 BST 12 October
19:04 BST 12 October
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Nottingham Forest boss Oliver Glasner has thanked both his own fans and supporters of Crystal Palace for the reception and support he was given on his Selhurst Park return on Sunday, and welcomed an emerging rivalry between the two clubs.
Glasner guided Palace to three trophies, the first major silverware in the club's history, in just over two years before joining Forest in July.
It was a controversial move, especially after Forest replaced the Eagles in the Europa League after their demotion to the Conference League before the 2025-26 season and their owner Evangelos Marinakis' involvement in subsequent legal proceedings.
Asked if he thought the friction between the two sets of supporters might endure, Glasner said: "I don't know. At the end, it's what we all want, when there is a rivalry between fans.
"I think everything, also today, is how we wanted. Both supporters, both sides, supported their team with a lot of energy, a lot of power.
"There was maybe a few (negative ones) but I didn't hear it, no negativity against the opposition, and it was really supporting my team, and this is how we want football at the end.
"As a manager, and I am now in football for many years, I haven't experienced that, (being) supported from both sides, so a really huge thank you."
Palace in 'better condition' for Lyonpublished at 18:28 BST 12 October
18:28 BST 12 October
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Crystal Palace boss Pierre Sage believes his side are in a "better condition" to prepare for their Europa League game against Lyon after their comeback win over Nottingham Forest.
The Eagles struggled for large parts of the first half against former boss Oliver Glasner's Forest side after going behind to Dan Ndoye's early goal, but held off further pressure to stay in the game.
Daichi Kamada and Jefferson Lerma struck before half-time to turn the game on its head and Yeremy Pino completed the scoring to give Sage his first Selhurst Park win.
On how much Sunday's victory helps his side, Sage said: "It's difficult to say. But when you win, you always need to play again, and for that we have a big game in Lyon.
"We have to prepare it, and I think to prepare the thing when you are more quiet in your mindset, when you are without doubt, you can improve quickly.
"But we know the game was not perfect, we have to accept that, but we have to understand that sometimes we have to win like this.
"I think if I had the choice to make everybody make a good performance today and lose before Lyon, I think today we are in a better condition to prepare this game and the one after."
Crystal Palace 3-1 Nottingham Forest - the fans' verdictpublished at 11:16 BST 12 October
11:16 BST 12 October
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We asked for your thoughts after Sunday's Premier League game between Crystal Palace and Nottingham Forest.
Here are some of your comments:
Crystal Palace fans
James: Never say die. They battered us in the first half but there's only one statistic that matters and when you're only 1-0 down you have a chance. Great to see the spirit in the team and we were much improved in the second half. Onwards!
Colin: We didn't get the luck against Ipswich and Leeds away so we were due some!
Joe: Going forward, good. Defensively, very worrying. How many games are we in now and we can't organise a defence? Leeds was a sign of change but this was a step back. Thankfully we can score goals now but we need to stop performances like the first half if we want to be safe this year.
Steve: For 40 minutes, it was like watching a scary movie from behind the sofa. Somehow, Forest failed to drive home their superiority. Then, from nothing, Palace equalised and Palace fans began to emerge from behind the sofa to witness a great comeback. The players showed tremendous heart and amazing resilience. A win is always pleasing, but Sage must sort out the defence before a better team really takes them to task.
Dom: To be honest we got away with it. Forest really should have buried us in the first half. That performance from Benitez might make it difficult for Henderson to get back in the team!
Nottingham Forest fans
Paul: Made a number of good chances but woeful in front of goal. Forest could have been four up before Palace scored and we paid the price. Entertaining game and couldn't fault the commitment of either team.
David: A wonderful performance for 40 minutes. How did we not score four? All credit to Palace for turning the game around but so disappointing to lose after the great start.
Peter: It's just not working for Forest and if things don't improve then we are in for another relegation battle. Unfortunately Liam Delap appears to be proving his doubters correct and our defence including Sels look increasingly haphazard. A magic wand is needed.
Kris: Blunt, craftless and needlessly defensive. Glasner's formation isn't working and his team lacks cutting edge. None of the problems that were so evident last season were addressed, with more poor/aimless recruitment in the summer. Another season of strife and struggle under the stewardship of Marianakis on the cards.
John: We have effort, flair and skill but we're not getting points. Yes, we've got key players injured but we're supposed to have strengthened the squad to overcome this. Mr Marinakis isn't frightened of using the manager's ejector seat and he'll be reaching for the button unless the points start coming.
Should Palace's second goal have been disallowed?published at 08:05 BST 12 October
08:05 BST 12 October
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"Nottingham Forest boss Oliver Glasner might have something to say about Crystal Palace's crucial second goal," said Dale Johnson, BBC football issues correspondent.
Jefferson Lerma nodded the ball through the legs of Forest keeper Matz Sels from a corner just moments before half-time on Sunday, but replays showed his effort grazed the elbow of team-mate Anan Khalail on its way into goal.
"A goal cannot be scored if the ball touches the arm, so Forest may believe the goal should have been ruled out," said Johnson. "The VAR determined that there was no conclusive evidence to get involved.
"This will sting for Forest after they had a Neco Williams goal ruled out for handball against Spurs, after he bundled the ball into the net on the goalline.
"There is a case that the evidence was clearer for handball by Khalaili than for Williams, and Forest have been on the wrong end of both."
Former Premier League assistant referee Darren Cann added: "After several replays, various angles and about 30 minutes of TV analysts magnifying the picture, it does look like Lerma's header comes off the arm of Khalaili before going into the goal.
"However, to be fair to the VAR, they cannot take this long in their deliberations and if there is not clear, indisputable evidence readily available, they must go with the on-field decision."
Crystal Palace 3-1 Nottingham Forest: What Sage saidpublished at 17:11 BST 11 October
17:11 BST 11 October
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Crystal Palace manager Pierre Sage, speaking to BBC Sport: "We are happy to win this game but we were aware of this one. We struggled a lot against a good team. They analysed us very well. In the end we won and that is the most important thing.
"The most important moment was when Benitez saved to prevent it 2-0. At this moment we stayed in the game.
"We were not perfect but we are a team with a big heart an a big solidarity. Sometimes you have to win like this.
"The message is everyone is really important because the season is really long. They deserve a day off, it is a good way to give something. It is a day off for the players but for us we have to really be focused on Lyon now."
Did you know?
For the first time in 13 attempts, Crystal Palace have beaten Nottingham Forest in the Premier League (D8 L4 prior).
Crystal Palace analysis - Eagles' unexpected turnaround published at 17:07 BST 11 October
17:07 BST 11 October
Gary Rose BBC Sport journalist
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Oliver Glasner brought Crystal Palace unprecedented success during his time at the Eagles, leading them to their first major trophy with the FA Cup before adding European glory, so it will have been tough for their fans to watch him take a seat in the opposition dugout.
For a good 40 minutes of Sunday's match Palace supporters will have been fearing the worst as Nottingham Forest - aided by Glasner's inside knowledge - appeared to have the measure of the home side.
Forest were in complete control while Palace were defensively a mess and were lucky to survive when Morgan Gibbs-White struck the crossbar and Liam Delap's shot on the follow up was somehow denied by Walter Benitez.
That moment would prove pivotal as five minutes later Palace were level, and the momentum then swung significantly in their favour.
Having looked like they could have been two or three goals down after 40 minutes, they could have actually won by a bigger margin, with Jefferson Lerma also seeing a header well saved by Mats Selz.
After losing three of their first five games, another defeat will have increased the pressure on Pierre Sage but instead their display from 41 minutes onwards will provide Palace fans with optimism.
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Crystal Palace v Nottingham Forest: Key stats and talking pointspublished at 13:31 BST 10 October
13:31 BST 10 October
Tom McCoy BBC Sport journalist
BBC Sport examines some of the key themes before Sunday's match (14:00 BST), with Nottingham Forest boss Oliver Glasner returning to face former club Crystal Palace.
Palace aim to end Forest hoodoo
"If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." That seems to have been the approach of Glasner, who failed to win any of his five games against Forest as Palace boss before swapping Selhurst Park for the City Ground this summer.
Palace's poor record in this fixture predates Glasner's appointment in 2024, with the Londoners winless in all 12 Premier League meetings. That is the most they have faced an opponent in the competition without winning, and likewise the most games Forest have played against one side without losing.
A convincing case can be made that Glasner is the most successful manager in Palace's history. The Austrian led them to their first two major honours - the FA Cup in 2025 and the Conference League a year later.
Some supporters may have been disappointed that he left to join a club who finished one place below Palace last season. However, owner Steve Parish has urged fans to give him a "fantastic reception" and ignore the "pantomime narratives".
Glasner's successor, Pierre Sage, earned his first Premier League clean sheet in the draw against Leeds United last time out but has lost both of his top-flight home games.
The Frenchman has chopped and changed so far, fielding 27 players in the league, a joint record by any Premier League team after five matches. Continuity will be needed if they are to climb the table.
Gibbs-White thriving on the road
Nottingham Forest were one of four Premier League clubs - including Crystal Palace - who earned more points away than at home last season, and that trend has become even more pronounced this term.
Forest have failed to score in all four of their league and cup games at the City Ground, but have drawn 2-2 at Liverpool and won 2-1 at Aston Villa.
Including last season, they have scored at least twice in seven consecutive top-flight away matches, the longest such run in the club's history.
One of the key players behind that sequence has been Morgan Gibbs-White. The 26-year-old played only 45 minutes during the international break, split between four substitute appearances for England, but is undoubtedly the talisman for his club.
Gibbs-White has either scored or assisted in eight consecutive Premier League away games, one short of the record shared by Andy Cole, Robin van Persie and Erling Haaland.
Sage on Sarr contract, Mateta's fitness and Glasner's return with Forestpublished at 15:57 BST 9 October
15:57 BST 9 October
Crystal Palace boss Pierre Sage has been speaking to the media before Sunday's Premier League game against Nottingham Forest at Selhurst Park (14:00 BST).
Here are the key lines from his news conference:
Sage confirmed last season's top scorer Ismaila Sarr is in contention to start on Sunday, having played just eight minutes for the Eagles so far this campaign: "He is now able to start. He had his best session for us this week and I hope we can re-find the player."
The Palace boss also hinted that a new contract for the winger, who was the subject of interest from Galatasaray and Liverpool during the transfer window, is close: "It's not already signed, it's in discussion, but it's in a good way."
Sage also confirmed Jean-Phillipe Mateta, Dean Henderson and Takehiro Tomiyasu remain unavailable for the visit of Forest, but "we expect all three of them to come back for Lyon, or Brighton", while Ana Khalaili has recovered from a hamstring injury picked up on international duty and is "ready to play 90 minutes".
On Mateta, he added: "For Mateta, it was his first training with us, but it's a good step. He was out a long time, but it's a good sign, both for him and also for us. He will not be available for the game this weekend."
Sage was asked about the guilty verdict, external handed to Manchester City in relation to breaches of the Premier League's financial rules: "First of all, we already played against Manchester City which is why I don't really have interest to look at them in depth. The second thing is, now the facts are here I think it is for a court to make the decision, and quickly."
On what delays with the sanctions could mean for the rest of the league: "I think that is why the court have to make a quick decision. We will see after this first decision because there is another chance to have an appeal."
On former Eagles boss Oliver Glasner and defender Daniel Munoz, who both departed Palace over the summer: "Everybody has to remind themselves what happened with this manager. They won three titles here for the first time for the club. I have big respect for him, as I have for Daniel Munoz who also left this summer. When you leave, some people are upset because they like you, but you can like a manager at another club if you remind yourself what they did for you. I hope for a good reception."
On if there will be an increased atmosphere against Forest: "The two teams are close in the table, close in how they are playing. There is a former manager and player coming back, which is why [the atmosphere] will be more than normal. That's why details are important and the atmosphere is one of those details to deal with in a good way. I hope and expect all the fans will be with us. I know they will be. If they can give us one percent more, it will be better for us."
How similar will the table look at the end of the season?published at 07:00 BST 9 October
07:00 BST 9 October
Chris Collinson BBC Sport statistician
Just five games in, it might seem a bit early to pay much attention to the Premier League table - but it's probably more settled than you think.
If we look at the Premier League after five games last season and where teams ultimately ended up, the final table was already starting to take shape as 13 of the 20 sides finished within four places of where they sat even at this early stage (65%).
Eventual champions Arsenal were second, Sunderland were already seventh - where they finished eight months later - and two of the three sides that were relegated were already in the bottom three.
The eventual champions have been in the top two at this point in the past four campaigns, suggesting - potential punishments aside - it will be Manchester City or Arsenal that lifts the trophy.
The top end of the table overall has sometimes settled surprisingly quickly in recent years. The top eight after five games in 2024-25 finished as the top eight at the end of that season (although not in the same order), while the top six in 2019-20 and top seven in 2016-17 were also in place at this early stage.
While being top after five games has not meant much in recent seasons, being bottom certainly has.
Tottenham could well be in trouble once again as the side bottom of the Premier League after five games has been relegated in six of the past seven seasons.
Being bottom this early did not used to be such a bad omen. Between 2013-14 and 2018-19, only one of the six sides that were propping up the table after five games ended up going down - Newcastle in 2015-16 - while Crystal Palace finished as high as 11th in 2017-18.
Looking at the relegation battle more broadly, at least one of the teams in the bottom three at this stage has been relegated in the past eight seasons - so one of Tottenham, Fulham and Coventry City are very likely to be heading to the Championship in May.
The pool of contestants for this season's relegation battle may already be decided too because the three sides that ultimately went down in the past three seasons were all in the bottom six after five games, which would add Bournemouth, Aston Villa and Crystal Palace to the mix.
The last sides to be outside the bottom six at this point but relegated were Leeds United and Southampton in 2022-23, who were both in the top half (seventh and ninth). With their teams currently in eighth and 11th place, Hull City and Ipswich Town fans will hope that is still the case at the end of this campaign.
While the season may well have barely begun, the Premier League table is already starting to take shape.
Glasner deserves positive Palace welcomepublished at 12:39 BST 7 October
12:39 BST 7 October
Nick Mashiter Football reporter
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Oliver Glasner should return to Crystal Palace on Sunday as a hero.
With the Eagles he won the FA Cup, Europa Conference League and the Community Shield to etch his name into Selhurst Park history. His final match in charge was that 1-0 win over Rayo Vallecano in Leipzig in May.
Yet his summer move to Nottingham Forest, after opting to leave Palace at the of last season, has left his legacy tarnished in the eyes of Eagles fans.
A new modern-day rivalry means the reception he gets when Forest travel to Selhurst Park on Sunday could be mixed.
Of course, that inadvertently helped Glasner lift the Europa Conference League, following Palace's demotion into that competition.
Because of that success and others - leaving him as the most successful manager in Palace's history - the Austrian deserves to be lauded in south London on Sunday afternoon.
Palace owner Steve Parish has urged fans to give him a "fantastic reception" and ignore the "pantomime narratives".
He is right, Glasner left and moved on to something else, that is the nature of the game. He is not the first and will not be the last.
Of course part of football is tribal rivalry but Glasner deserves to be recognised for what he achieved, not to be painted as the villain after so much success with Palace.
Is it 'make or break' time for Sage?published at 12:00 BST 7 October
12:00 BST 7 October
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Is it make or break for Pierre Sage?
Jack Pearce, of the Five Year Plan Podcast, believes Crystal Palace's October fixtures are important for the Eagles manager's future at the club.
Palace have had a slow start to the Premier League campaign, earning just four points from the opening five games.
Following the international break, Sage's side have Europa League ties at Lyon and Besiktas to contend with in the next five games, alongside a trip to rivals Brighton and beginning with Sunday's match against former boss Oliver Glasner's Nottingham Forest.
"He will either end October with his reputation furthered and fans feeling more comfortable with him in charge, or he might end up unemployed," Jack told BBC Radio London.
"It really could be that much of an important time for Sage.
Listen to the full discussion by pressing play below on on BBC Sounds here
Rival clubs want range of punishments for Man Citypublished at 07:09 BST 7 October
07:09 BST 7 October
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A number of Premier League clubs want Manchester City to be hit with both "retrospective punishments" and sanctions for the future for their mass financial rule-breaking, sources have told BBC Sport.
An independent commission found City guilty of all charges relating to breaches of the Premier League's financial regulations between the 2009-10 and 2017-18 seasons.
City have appealed against the verdict, while the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) is poised to look at the findings to see if there may be any suggestions of potential misconduct.
However, there is said to be a consensus among a group of top-flight club executives that if City's appeal is unsuccessful, the sanctions should make reparations for the period when they broke the rules, while also limiting their powers in future.
There is also a feeling from at least four Premier League boardrooms that a "one-hit" points deduction resulting in relegation to the Championship would be an insufficient punishment given the severity of City's wrongdoing.
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