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Former Tottenham goalkeeper Paul Robinson speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live about Igor Tudor's future: "In my opinion it would be the right decision [to get rid of Tudor].

"It was the wrong decision from the start. I don't think he's had any kind of impact. We talk about a new manager bounce - that's what Tottenham were looking for.

"Tudor's record at Udinese - that job that he did there, they weren't in the bottom three. He turned a lower to an average club around and make them face the right direction. He's never spent more than a year at any club that he's been at.

"For Tottenham Hotspur, it's the wrong person at the wrong time.

"You saw the players' performance [against Atletico]. The minimum required from players is maximum effort, attitude, application. It wasn't there.

"They go to Liverpool at the weekend. Every single game now is huge.

"On Tuesday in the Champions League, it was about the performance. The competition is irrelevant, they're not making the final.

"Premier League survival is apparent to Tottenham. What I saw, the attitude and application was not there - they are not playing for that manager. "

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Chief football correspondent John Murray speaking on 5 Live Breakfast about Spurs' defeat by Atletico: "I don't know if I've ever seen anything quite like the first 23 or 24 minutes of what happened in the Metropolitano on Tuesday night.

"I've never seen anything like it. It was extraordinary.

"The feeling was that with the team Igor Tudor had - with Cristian Romero and Djed Spence back - it might not go well for them, but they'd be in touch in the second leg at home.

"The first 20 minutes of that match, they were completely blown away. It was mistake after slip after error after mistake and Atletico Madrid scored goal after goal after goal.

"It was Antonin Kinsky's big call, to play in the Champions League for the first time. To substitute him off, I can't remember seeing anything like that before.

"Two or three of his team-mates came over to him as he was leaving. Tudor stood on the edge of the coaching area and there was no interaction between them at all.

"We were staggered."

On whether Tudor's time is up: "It's very hard to see that this has any mileage left in it. It was widely questioned when he was appointed, it came out of nowhere to replace Thomas Frank.

"We're in a position now where it's almost impossible to think that they'll not have to make another change because of the position they're in.

"In footballing terms, this is an absolute crisis.

"Having finished 17th last season, they're now in danger of dropping into the Championship which for Tottenham is unthinkable."

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Tottenham Hotspur fan Hannah Ryan speaking to BBC Radio 5 Live about whether or not to sack Igor Tudor: "I think I would twist at this point.

"Nothing has improved after getting rid of Thomas Frank.

"If anything, we look worse, we look a little bit calamitous than we did before.

"We bought Tudor in to get results and instantly get an impact - and after four games, that hasn't happened.

"We're running out of games to be able to give the manager time.

"I don't know what you've got to lose by twisting again at this point. It might seem silly to roll the dice one more time but nothing has improved since sacking Frank."

On whether the Atletico first leg result means Spurs can now focus on battling relegation: "There's a glimmer of hope. I didn't feel good after the Palace game at all.

"There's still nine games to go, that's a lot of football. All we can hope is that we do everything we can do on the pitch, leave everything out there, and hope that the teams around us drop points.

"It's a real dogfight now. I don't know if the players on this team who aren't used to be in relegation battles, whether they have the stomach for it.

"We'll have to see."

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"If you've got no confidence, don't play."

That is the message from former Tottenham winger Chris Waddle to members of the current squad who have "no confidence" amid their recent dismal run.

Tuesday's disastrous 5-2 defeat by Atletico Madrid was a fourth successive loss in Igor Tudor's four games in charge.

When asked on the Football Daily podcast whether Tudor was the man to turn things around for Spurs, Waddle said: "Not at the moment, no. If you look at it, no, but then who can?

"The players are drained of confidence. They need to stand up and be counted. You've got players like [Cristian] Romero who have won the World Cup and is captain of the club.

"You've got international footballers throughout the squad and they don't do anything - the changing room obviously must not be as close as people say it is.

"You roll your sleeves up. It might be ugly and you might win 1-0 in a horrible game and it was terrible but they are so easy to play against Tottenham at the minute.

"I watch them play. I had four years there, it's a great club, I really enjoyed it. I watch them now and they don't look like they want to wear the shirt.

"We can talk all day about management and the players but the biggest thing in football is; if you've got no confidence, don't play.

"Just put your hand up and say, 'I'm sorry, I can't play'.

"You want players who are going to roll their sleeves up, get on the ball - what were you bought for? What are you paid for? To create, do things and work.

"The simple thing about football is working hard, being organsied - that's not hard.

"But you look at so many Spurs players and they hide because they've got no confidence. They don't want to cross that white line and you can see that. Every time I watch Tottenham play they are so easy to play against.

"They should go out and have a good drink and a good chat and tell the truth to each other."

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We asked for your thoughts after Tuesday's Champions League game between Atletico Madrid and Tottenham Hotspur.

Here are some of your comments:

Liam: Absolutely horrific. We had no structure, no formation half the time and we pressed one player at a time. Igor Tudor had awful team selection and substitutions. We looked like we never played football before!!!

Tim: If we want to instil in the players more passion and a greater sense of loyalty for the badge then Tudor has to go. How can he select a young keeper for such a big game and then not even give him eye contact when he's subbed off? After just four games the Tudor times are over.

Daniel: The morale of this "team" is so low. Tudor is not - and never was - the man for the job. His team selection is atrocious and he has no man management skills whatsoever. Sack him and bring in someone like Harry Redknapp who had an abundance of people skills because that's what's desperately needed now. Anything less and it'll be Championship football next season and the end of our club as we know it for who knows how long. COYS!

David C: Bring back Harry Redknapp.

Peter: We need a swift change of manager to someone the players respect. We need it now. If we continue on this road we are talking about the very future of the club. The fans don't deserve this rubbish. Tudor was the wrong choice admit it and act like leaders NOW.

David B: If we can't even pick the right boots, what chance did we have?

Richard: I keep on saying it: Mr Frank should never have been made the scape goat and I hope that is so so evident to everyone else now, now that we clearly have a half-rate nobody in charge of the team who is also only interested in himself and who doesn't give a monkeys about his players. The board should make a public apology to the sensible fans they betrayed and go cap-in-hand to a certain Danishman, grovelling for him to come back and do the rebuilding job that he was asked to do in the summer: and that takes time and patience.

Mike: Manager must go. Bring in someone that knows Tottenham. The current first team don't seem to be able to fight. Play the youngsters, at least they will give there all, can't see Tottenham pulling out of this.

Neil Johnston
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Tottenham replaced goalkeeper Antonin Kinsky in the 17th minute of their Champions League last-16 tie at Atletico Madrid after conceding three goals.

The Czech Republic international, 22, endured a nightmare start and interim boss Igor Tudor quickly replaced him with Guglielmo Vicario.

He was not acknowledged by Tudor before he headed down the tunnel.

BBC Sport's chief football writer Phil McNulty, who was at the match, said he was not sure he had "ever witnessed anything quite like this" after Spurs' series of mistakes was followed by Tudor's decision to take Kinsky off.

BBC Sport's Spanish football reporter Elizabeth Conway, also at the match, said Kinsky was shown support by team-mates Kevin Danso, Cristian Romero and Pedro Porro as he left the pitch.

Romero walked over to speak with Tudor shortly before Kinsky was substituted.

Asked if Romero advised Tudor to substitute Kinsky, Tudor said: "My decision, of course."

Asked if he deserved to continue in his role, Tudor said: "It is not a topic for me. It is not about my job. It is about how to help the team. It will be always be about that.

"I recognise what we are and which problems we have. I recognise that every game, something happens. Sometimes it is very difficult to explain."

Former Premier League goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel told CBS Sports: "Tudor has completely destroyed his career. I feel really sorry for him.

"When his name is mentioned in the future, the whole football world will remember this moment.

"He needed to be supported, at least until half-time."

Former Spurs and England goalkeeper Joe Hart told TNT Sports: "My heart is absolutely broken for him.

"He had a horrible 14 minutes - that slip and the third goal. I don't know what to say. I am just heartbroken for the lad.

"This Tottenham team is all over the place."

Former Spain and Manchester United goalkeeper David de Gea, who plays for Fiorentina, posted a message of support for Kinsky on social media.

"No-one who hasn't been a goalkeeper can understand how difficult it is to play in this position," De Gea wrote on X.

"Keep your head up and you will go again."

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Sami Mokbel
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This is the question Tottenham's board members will be asking themselves after Igor Tudor's latest aberration: are the players responding to the manager's methods?

The answer appears clear. Four games have brought four losses, with 14 goals conceded.

Results aside, sources have indicated to BBC Sport in recent days that members of the Tottenham squad are still to be convinced that Tudor has the tools to guide this struggling team away from the sorry predicament they find themselves.

So, with that in mind, the club's hierarchy clearly has a big decision to make.

Before this latest loss, internal concerns over Tudor's position had already started to generate. This result will only serve to sharpen the focus on Tudor's job security in the coming days.

Before the clash, there was a sense that a positive performance in Madrid could be used as a building block for Tudor before a crucial game at Liverpool in the Premier League this weekend.

You wonder if the manner of this loss – and the sub-plots that unraveled on a tortuous night for Spurs – has altered the direction of travel.

Tudor was appointed because of his track record in sparking immediate improvements at other clubs, namely at Juventus and Lazio.

His arrival has heralded the opposite effect. That, coupled with what some have described as a "disconnect" between players and the manager, leaves Tudor under increased scrutiny.

A decision to sack Tudor so soon after his appointment would provide a clear admission of error from the Tottenham hierarchy. The club's ownership, you would imagine, will be demanding answers.

But k.eeping Tudor may prove an even bigger mistake with Tottenham's top-flight status on the line.

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Former Tottenham goalkeeper Paul Robinson says Igor Tudor's decision to substitute Antonin Kinsky in the 17th minute of their Champions League last-16 tie at Atletico Madrid after conceding three goals was "very selfish" and "blatantly for self-preservation".

The 22-year-old endured a nightmare start and interim boss Igor Tudor quickly replaced him, at 3-0 down, with usual first-choice Guglielmo Vicario.

"The manager certainly hasn't helped Kinsky at all," Robinson told BBC Radio 5 Live's Football Daily podcast.

"Nobody will understand where he is and there is nobody who knows you've made a mistake more than you as a goalkeeper.

"Unfortunately it is a very lonely place and that has been highlighted and magnified by the manager making that substitution.

"Him making that change after 16 minutes is going to be talked about worldwide. For him that will be soul-destroying.

"He's probably sat alone in the dressing room for the rest of the first half, I wouldn't be surprised if he was in tears in that situation.

"It's a really difficult thing to handle, but I think actually it's a very selfish decision from the manager because he knows that he's not here for long. He's making decisions that he thinks will keep him in a job and keep Spurs in the Premier League.

"It was a very selfish decision. He bought Kinsky in because Vicario has been poor in the league and I think he thought if Kinsky did well he had an excuse to keep him in for the rest of the season.

"He reverted on that decision very early. I've never seen a manager substitute a goalkeeper so early and so clearly as a result of mistakes. It's quite blatantly for self-preservation for the manager because he thinks it was the best decision for him at the time without consideration for the young goalkeeper."

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If Igor Tudor believed his brief losing reign could not get any worse after the home defeat by Crystal Palace, he reckoned without one of the most humiliating nights in Spurs' recent history.

The Croatian was bold with his team selection, especially dropping regular first choice Guglielmo Vicario for young deputy Antonin Kinsky.

To say it was a move that back-fired is a masterpiece of under-statement as Kinsky suffered the sort of personal nightmare that will take huge strength of character to recover from.

Even the hearts of Atletico's passionate, partisan support went out to Kinsky as his number came up following his errors, with team-mates also moving to offer words of comfort as he went off.

Tudor was in optimistic mood before the game, but that all changed inside 23 madcap minutes as Spurs slipped – literally – from one costly error to another, effectively ending this contest and, in all likelihood, the tie.

Spurs actually created chances of their own as Atletico stepped off the gas, but the damage was already done.

And it may be permanent damage for the beleaguered Tudor, who arrived as an emergency measure with a reputation for having an instant impact in his chequered coaching career.

Instead, things have arguably got worse and now, with a testing trip to Liverpool on Sunday and Spurs just one point off the Premier League relegation places, the club's hierarchy look like they will soon face another decision of huge significance in a bid to somehow rescue a season in freefall.

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Kevin Danso to TNT Sports after Tottenham's defeat against Atletico Madrid: "Anyone who watched the game they will have seen three unlucky moments, three slips that gave them goals. We all know what kind of team Atletico are, they defended very well and after that it was very difficult to get into the game.

On keeping spirits high: "It's difficult but that is what he have to do. This is the moment to show what type of team we are. This has to make us, not break us. These are the moments everyone has to stand up and show their character. We can't just talk and say it's going to get better, it's time everyone looked at themselves in the mirror and give more.

"It starts with working, getting our heads down and working on the pitch. We still managed to score two goals, created some chances.

"At home we need to show an abundance of character , take the game to them and turn it around."

Archie Gray said: "It's obviously a disappointing result. We didn't help ourselves with the best start. It was difficult to come back into the game after that. We have to focus on the next game and the second leg after that.

"It's difficult, mistakes happen, it's part of football. Tony [Kinsky] is young. I have made mistakes, everyone has, especially when you are younger. When it costs goals it is disappointing. But he is strong mentally so he will get through this, he'll be alright.

"We have got to take responsibility, what's happened this game and in the Premier League. In quite a lot of games this season it's been unacceptable. We have to take responsibility and push on."

Igor Tudor spoke to TNT Sports after Tottenham's defeat against Atletico Madrid, and was asked if starting Antonin Kinsky was a mistake: "No, after you see what happened, it's the wrong decision. But it was the right decision before.

"A change of competition, it was the right moment. Unfortunately, what happened, happened. I never changed a goalkeeper after 20 minutes."

On if he has spoken to Kinsky: "We don't need to comment. It's not the moment to speak too much. It was a strange game, very strange game. We gave them three goals. We even started good then the problems kill us in three situations.

"Very, very strange. Very unusual. It took our confidence. We had an opportunity to make it 4-2 then we concede a goal for 5-1.

"We apologise to the fans and to everyone. It's a difficult moment. Everything looks like going wrong. Small mistakes, we pay. Everything, unbelievable.

"Even this situation at the end, two players [colliding]. It felt like everything was going against us."

On why things aren't working: "I need to keep working. Not speaking too much, stay focused on the things we can do. It's unbelievably difficult to explain all these things, the first time in my career that I saw these things, 15 years.

"I'm focused on the problems, the players also. We need to stay positive."

On if he thinks board will stick with him: "It's not about me. We need to stay calm. Less talking.

"Better less talking. Now is not the moment to try and give a big explanation."

Former Spurs goalkeeper and TNT Sports commentator Joe Hart, at the time of Kinsky's substitution: "I've been trying to make sense of it . My heart is absolutely broken for him. He had a horrible 14 minutes, that slip and the third goal. I don't know what to say. I am just heartbroken for the lad."

Did you know?

Tottenham Hotspur have lost six consecutive matches in all competitions for the first time in their history.

Igor Tudor has become the first manager to lose each of his first four games in charge of Tottenham in all competitions.